1. Season 6 of the International Shoop League is now active! Click here to vote on your favorite shoop submissions!

SHERDOG MOVIE CLUB: Week 127 - Hereditary

Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by europe1, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    35,030
    Likes Received:
    35,099
    Location:
    Hell
    I didn't connect with them at all. Had a good laugh (due to the cliched predictability) when the daughter hit the pole. Although I must say the miniature re-creation of the event was my favorite part of the film.

    Are they? Weren't the two kids normal up until this point? And the schizo brother wasn't really schizo, he was being possessed?
     
    MusterX and FrontNakedChoke like this.
  2. FrontNakedChoke

    FrontNakedChoke ____________________

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19,535
    Likes Received:
    50,212
    Location:
    Southern Ontario
    Who's to say they didn't have the free will to do that and chose not to?
     
    Cubo de Sangre likes this.
  3. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    35,030
    Likes Received:
    35,099
    Location:
    Hell
    Didn't someone here suggest that going to Hell was their destiny?
     
    FrontNakedChoke likes this.
  4. MusterX

    MusterX Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2006
    Messages:
    36,906
    Likes Received:
    31,679
    Were they? Charlie certainly had something wrong with her, be it demonic possession or mental illness. Her brother Peter had a grandmother that was a diagnosed multiple personality disorder who had a schizophrenic son and his mother was also a head case who married her psychologist. Those types of mental illnesses are inherited. So it bothers me, that or its genius, that it was filmed as a demonic possession but everyone involved was at risk of extreme mental disorder. I think it was filmed in a way that is obviously a demonic possession but then WHY do you have to make everyone mental?
     
  5. FrontNakedChoke

    FrontNakedChoke ____________________

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19,535
    Likes Received:
    50,212
    Location:
    Southern Ontario
    I see it more as, that their "curses" were hereditary.. in that they spawned from grandma and her involvement in the occult.
     
    Cubo de Sangre likes this.
  6. FrontNakedChoke

    FrontNakedChoke ____________________

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19,535
    Likes Received:
    50,212
    Location:
    Southern Ontario
    Even if you weren't already mental, the paranormal stuff would likely drive you there.

    I think that this was done on purpose though, almost to blur the lines between mental illness and demonic possession. Maybe to make the viewer dig a little deeper, or maybe because they're connected.
     
  7. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    35,030
    Likes Received:
    35,099
    Location:
    Hell
    The film seems to present the demonic stuff as fact, so I agree these illnesses aren't written in to explain the events. To me it's more indicative of the outsider perspective trying to label something they don't understand. Like her dead brother being diagnosed with Schizophrenia. That diagnoses is the result of dismissing his possession claims out of hand.

    Charlie seemed normal outside of the bird's head thing. Peter seemed normal prior to the extreme events taking place in the film.


    Sure, family can suck you into things you wouldn't otherwise be involved in. I'm still not on board with Charlie going to Hell. It's indicated that she was possessed to some degree from infancy. I don't know that failing to accept Jesus and asking for forgiveness disqualifies one from Heaven. If it doesn't, why the eternal damnation?
     
    FrontNakedChoke likes this.
  8. FrontNakedChoke

    FrontNakedChoke ____________________

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19,535
    Likes Received:
    50,212
    Location:
    Southern Ontario
    I think you're holding the movie to a standard of theology that's too real.
    I think the guy who made it was more concerned about the occult elements, but I could be wrong.

    In real life:
    - As a believer myself, I believe Charlie would go to heaven because of her age (my opinion)
    [​IMG]

    In Hereditary:
    - Everyones mentally ill, cursed, possessed, and going to hell,
    because that's wayyyy more metal and it's a horror movie.
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    35,030
    Likes Received:
    35,099
    Location:
    Hell
    You may be right, but it's not really something that affected my enjoyment of the film. Just something that pops out during the analysis.
     
    FrontNakedChoke likes this.
  10. sickc0d3r

    sickc0d3r Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Messages:
    6,446
    Likes Received:
    5,782
    Location:
    Wet with salvation
    What I meant by that is they could make choices but it wouldn't affect the outcome. The process began before the kids were born, and they only existed to complete the ritual. Annie tried to abort Peter and failed. Tried to burn him and Charlie in their sleep and couldn't do it. Tried to sacrifice herself and save her family by throwing the book into the fire, and it burned her husband instead.
     
  11. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    35,030
    Likes Received:
    35,099
    Location:
    Hell
    I very much enjoyed No Country For Old Men. Something though sticks in my craw that continues to color my overall appreciation. Like going from an A to an A-, more or less. It's that they killed the Protagonist off-screen. Arguments aside, suffice it to say, that wasn't very satisfying as a viewer. Nor do I feel it does the character justice. This feels similar to that in that Annie seemed to transform from struggling mom to sawing off her own head a little too quickly for what I think the audience and character might have deserved.
     
    europe1 and FrontNakedChoke like this.
  12. FrontNakedChoke

    FrontNakedChoke ____________________

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19,535
    Likes Received:
    50,212
    Location:
    Southern Ontario
    0-100 real quick lol
     
    Cubo de Sangre likes this.
  13. IamStryker

    IamStryker Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    11,655
    Likes Received:
    11,314
    This is my kind of horror movie. Psychological slow burn up to a great finale.
     
  14. IamStryker

    IamStryker Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    11,655
    Likes Received:
    11,314
    Everyone likes different things I guess. I saw the babadook awhile back but this movie creeped me out more than that one did.
     
  15. IamStryker

    IamStryker Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    11,655
    Likes Received:
    11,314
    These people exist but that doesn't mean any of it really works. None of it is real. No real paranormal activity has ever been proven. It's sort of like bigfoot. If it was real then we would have concrete evidence by now.
     
  16. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    35,030
    Likes Received:
    35,099
    Location:
    Hell
    For sure, and this one definitely had some intense scenes. Truth be told, something about a good ghost story is literally hair-raising with me. Babadook did the trick.
     
    Tufts likes this.
  17. FrontNakedChoke

    FrontNakedChoke ____________________

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19,535
    Likes Received:
    50,212
    Location:
    Southern Ontario
    Babadook scared the shit out of me the first time I watched it, but didn't hold the same effect the second/third time. The childrens book was soo creepy though. And the part when she see's her son on the couch...

    Both good Horror movies imo, but I think Hereditary is more disturbing and will stick with me longer.
     
    Cubo de Sangre likes this.
  18. Tufts

    Tufts Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2018
    Messages:
    601
    Likes Received:
    1,054
    I agree. I liked, and was creeped out, by the first half. Was pretty bored by the second half. Like @Cubo de Sangre - I preferred Babadook...
     
  19. Tufts

    Tufts Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2018
    Messages:
    601
    Likes Received:
    1,054
    This stuff straight up gives me the heebie jeebies. I participated in a seance with a ouija board when I was ten in the countryside outside of Madrid, and I heard a lot of weird shit outside the window while we were doing it that scared the living crap out of me. In retrospect, it was probably my friend's little brother messing with us, but I still had this moment of realization that things could go very wrong and that I wanted no part of it. Not sure what all I believe is possible, but I like to give this kind of evil a wide berth!
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
  20. Tufts

    Tufts Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2018
    Messages:
    601
    Likes Received:
    1,054
    He never actually looked in the back seat did he? I thought he did a good job of portraying shock. I was a little annoyed that he just went home and went to bed. Made sense that the demon was influencing him.
     
    FrontNakedChoke likes this.

Share This Page