Khabib threatens to Leave UFC if they fire his friend

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  1. Shaddows

    Shaddows Gold Belt

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    IMO it's different.
    Khabib just beat Conor. (Paulo had just lost to Kos & Palhares was 2-1 in his last 3)
    Khabib is the current champion (neither were champions)
    Khabib is unbeaten (well.. you get the jist)
    Khabib just became a lot more popular (since he fought Conor).
    Khabib CAN become a superstar if the UFC backs him up.
    plus he can open the door to Russia. A market still not really open to the UFC.

    But of course, he can also lose his next fight and become irrelevant, but that's what the UFC will weight in. The problem (for the UFC) is that Khabib ain't gonna wait to fight once more.
    UFC will have to decide which way to go now...

    ...then again, like you said, if history is to repeat itself, even if they decide not to bring back their jobs, they will sue Khabib to keep him under contract just so he can't go anywhere else for as long as they can prolong it. But they still lose. This battle will help no one.
     
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  2. Alpha_T83

    Alpha_T83 Purple Belt

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    Sadly it's in their best interests to protect their stars. I thought Conor should have been suspended from the UFC for a year, at least, for throwing the dolly. I also think JBJ should get a lifetime ban from the sport for 2x PED violations.

    However, the UFC are financially obligated to protect their stars. They actually have a fiduciary responsibility to protect their stars, and earn more money for shareholders. It's not even like they have a choice, they are legally obligated to do so.

    The guys that illegally jumped in the cage (commission controlled area -- criminal trespassing) and went after Conor (post-fight, potentially injured) absolutely should be banned from competing in MMA inside the United States again.
     
  3. Kertol

    Kertol Brown Belt

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    I had a feeling Khabib would do this after Dana said his friends would never fight in the UFC again. Good man.
     
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  4. AyDeeDee

    AyDeeDee Amazon Belt

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    Dont give a fuck. Khabib's style is boring as fuck and he did like 250k buys in his last fight. Let's see Tony vs Conor for the title.
     
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  5. Alpha_T83

    Alpha_T83 Purple Belt

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    I agree, but ultimately it's Khabib's battle. I agree with you that not punishing Conor for the dolly incident was hella stupid. However, these 2 guys committed a major violation and must be terminated. The UFC cannot back down on that. It's not like this happened at a press conference, this happened inside the octagon.

    At the end of the day, the UFC cannot give into Khabib here. If he wants to refuse to fight in the UFC, they will just keep his contract and keep offering him fights. He won't be able to get out of it, and won't be able to fight anywhere but Russia, China, Japan, and North Korea.
     
  6. VitorReem

    VitorReem Geralt of Rivia

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    He should leave. Destroy and emasculate mctap, all his friends, & Dana in one shot. Fuck them all.
     
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  7. Shaddows

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    Kind of disagree.
    That's a conflict of interest, and I understand your point.
    But a clean sport, with clear rules for everyone is an obvious long term choice for the sport, and for the longevity of the UFC.

    Every time they play favorites, they actually harm the sport and their own brand. That's a simple argument to make that would counter any move to play favorites.

    Yes, they can promote some people more than others. they can even give them some undeserving title shots.
    But they can't allow some to break rules others not. They could actually get sued by it.
     
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  8. Protectandserve

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    Well bye.

    Dude beat Connor but has absolutely no draw to the casuals.

    I dont think he wins this fight mainly due to the athletic commission and the fact that the damn governor of Nevada was impacted by this.
     
  9. Shaddows

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    I think the list of Countries are a lot bigger than you noted.
    and those 2 guys made nothing different than COnor did himself on a Bellator cage. And worse, he attacked a referee, which those guys did not do.
    And Conor got nothing from the AC nor from the UFC, so again, there are precedents, with the same party involved where no punishment were given.

    Note: it can happen exactly as you said. I only point out that this is not the first time things happened, and punishments were NOT awarded. There's nothing stating here that they have to happen. And legally, this could be a long drawn out battle that can take years and won't help anyone. (obviously least of all Khabib, but UFC would not win unschathed neither)
     
  10. MMAart

    MMAart Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    You mean doing something illegal like throwing a dolly at a bus, injuring multiple people?
     
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  11. Alpha_T83

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    Oh for sure, but those are the ones that might run semi-big MMA events -- except North Korea, that was a joke ;).

    Unfortunately special treatment of a high profile athlete does not equal precedent. We may not like it, but that's how the world works. I tried to argue that they can't go easy on Jon Jones, because that will set a precedent. In the end I was wrong -- they will just refuse to give anyone else the deal they gave Jones. It's shameful, really.

    Interestingly I'm not sure if the commissions have ever suspended a fighter for his actions at an event, during which he/she was competing. I'm very curious to see how the 2 guys that went after Conor are punished, if at all, by the commissions.

    But the UFC absolutely must ban those 2 guys from their organization. You can't tolerate that behaviour.
     
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  12. SmilinDesperado

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    I respect Khabib's gangsterness on this, but the situations aren't apples to apples. It's not apples and oranges, but they have some pretty important differences.

    Artem didn't actually do anything with the bus incident. That was all Conor with the dolly. And Artem was removed from his fight for being there. Khabib's guys actually laid hands on Conor.
    And there is a difference between attacking someone in 'the street', versus a group of guys attacking a fighter IN THE OCTAGON directly after his match.
    Khabib is really downplaying that part of it.
    You can't use shit talking about religion and family to justify those guys actions. If they wanted to fight Conor, in the middle of the fucking Octagon, after a match, on PPV, in front of cops, the governor, the UFC president, officials, etc...is the absolute worst place to do it....like, you should be banned just for being that stupid.

    I am definitely in the camp that wants people to be accountable for their words, but there's a time and place, and way of doing it. Khabib just finished Conor---that should have been the end of it.
    Khabib had a role in escalating this whole thing himself. Him putting hands on Artem is what took this from a 2 to a 10.
     
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  13. Broccoli Cake

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    Throwing a dolly at a the window of a bus. Like, seriously.
     
  14. AyDeeDee

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    No one would care except Khabib's Muslim fans who just realize he existed a week ago. Conor vs Tony is a more entertaining fight.
     
  15. FightGuyOpenMind

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    UFC will survive.

    But respect Khabib's resolve, and loyalty.
     
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  16. Dbreiden83080

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    Yes that was stupid as well. You are not helping your case by pointing out something else that was stupid. You don’t jump into a crowd and nearly incite a riot that could’ve ended terribly, and then simply preach about your pride and your integrity was offended. Ron Artest had his pride and integrity offended by a fan. After he jumped into the stands and punch him he was out of a job for one full year.
     
  17. Alpha_T83

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    I do respect his loyalty if he follows through. However, the UFC can't give into those demands. The 2 guys that went into the octagon after Conor need to be banned, end of story. They can't have that.
     
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    Your boy tapped like a bitch
     
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  19. FightGuyOpenMind

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    They definitely need to be disciplined. I say max them out with a year ban each, plus a fine.

    McGregor slapped a commissioner. Granted it was at a Bellator event. However, I think it would be hypocritical to give them a lifetime ban, especially considering they were probably largely responding to provocation they received.

    No one was "right" in the situation. I just personally don't think a lifetime ban is justified.
     
  20. SherdogJoe

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    I actually love Khabib for this. I hate Dana and the UFC and their abuse of fighters. I love it when someone who the UFC doesn't have leverage over, sticks it to them.

    Honor and respect > Money. The UFC has always operated the opposite way and now they should pay.

    I still love Conor but besides Khabib being muslim, I pretty much love everything about his attitude.
     

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